Hire a consultant??!! - 2 years work??!!

Is that a man or woman holding that cup? The nails indicate woman, but those look like man hands... anyway.. .

Councillors found the issue too hot to handle in December, when facing a proposal to ban paper cups with plastic lids and force coffee shops to give customers who bring their own mugs a 20-cent discount.

Instead, council set up a task force with city and industry representatives to find a solution by this month. Then it extended the deadline till June.

But following a closed-door meeting yesterday at city hall, some members said they doubted they would be able to cobble together a policy by then.

"There's business and economic issues that have not been studied," said Joe Hruska of the Environment and Plastics Industry Council. "They're going to need more time."

He foresees an "18-month to two-year" process to come up with a solution that embraces not only coffee cups but many other materials, and meshes with evolving provincial policies and directives.

http://www.thestar.com/News/GTA/article/614809

So the smoking ban you were great with, lead by example even (well, with examples.. ), but here, for clear and present environmental issues that could easily be fixed and added to the price of a cup, you need a consultant??!! Torontonians are already charged a recycling environmental tax ("additonal charge to cover recycling") on computers, beer and wine bottles, vehicle tires, house and building construction, and garage repair work (I'm sure I'm missing a ton more.. ). What's so hard here?

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They also disputed the 20-cent refund. Tim Hortons currently offers 10 cents for customers who bring a mug, and that's about how much that's saved by not having to supply a cup, according to the industry. Forcing shops to dole that much out would eat into profits, they said.

No shit?

http://www.thestar.com/News/GTA/article/536020

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And on top of that, this?!:

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/cbc/090311/canada/canada_newbrunswick_nb_tim_hortons_rims629

http://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/866qy/anyone_else_notice_tim_hortons_coffee_lids_being/

Tim Horton's Ban.